Ray Farr was a member of the trumpet section in the BBC Radio Orchestra when I first knew him, and an outstanding Flugel Horn soloist.
He gave that up to move north to Yorkshire as conductor of the Grimethorpe Colliery Band and started a new career that has seen him enjoy great success particularly in Britain and Norway, but with a reputation that is truly international.
We talk about his time as Professor of Conducting at Durham University and his time with the Reg Vardy band, and his work as a historian.
All in all it’s a fascinating conversation and even I, who has known Ray Farr for almost fifty years, discovered new things about him and his music.
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